Conversations with Maitreya
08/09/2003
Maitreya: Good morning. Welcome to the Mission of Maitreya’s Conversation Room. We have the answers to all the questions that humanity has been asking themselves for the last 12,000 years. Now all the religions of the world are unified and you will receive a clear explanation of God’s Plan and what He has been doing for the last 12,000 years.
He has prophesied that all these religions would come to humanity, and now He has sent the Seventh Revelation. If you are familiar with religions and their backgrounds and you would like to know what happened to your religion to this point and why this last Revelation was necessary and was needed to come, you have come to the right room.
We will be here for 1.5 hours and you can raise your hand for your questions or you can ask them in text. Of course, sometimes the text goes pretty fast and I might not see all the questions, but there are people who will send me your question in IM’s and I will try to answer all of them for you.
This new Revelation is that God has been sending seven revelations separately as new religions or truth to humanity for the last 12,000 years, and each of these religions became the main religion of a group or a people in different parts of the earth. Each of them, of course, thought they had the ultimate answer. But God clearly says in The Revelation that He is a Mystery until the Seventh Revelation or Angel comes to humanity and brings the whole truth to man.
We are at that point in history and human evolution that the Seventh Seal is opened, the Book Sealed with the Seven Seals is opened, the Seventh Revelation has come, the Seventh Angel opened the Seven Seals, and now we are in the last thousand years of purification for humanity. So in 1,000 years those who have purified themselves, understood the Teachings, followed the Eternal Divine Path, created the Communities of Light, participated in It, and brought the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth (KOHOE), will eventually reach the Goal, Pure Consciousness.
So this Revelation is very clear, very precise, and very strong. It has been written down, it is supported by prophecies fulfilled and the genealogy that connects the Revealer to all the prophecies of the coming of this Revelation. Therefore, if you have the slightest Spirit of God and truth, you have no choice but to see that this is from God.
This is the last Revelation and there is no other truth or revelation or news on the earth that is more complete and perfect than what we have here. Indeed, if you study our Teachings, you have a better grip and understanding of what is happening on earth than most humans have on earth.
They see only a very small part of what is happening, but we have the whole Vision of God’s Plan and what is coming. Those who think they will succeed without understanding God’s Plan are mistaken, and they will be very surprised when they see that what they think and what God has revealed are two different things.
If you want to have a greater grip on what is coming, you have come to the right place. Of course, God has been perfecting human to this point for the last 12,000 years. As it has been said, the wheat and the chaff have been grown together. Now it is the time of the harvest. It is the time to separate the chaff from the wheat, and the wheat are the beings that we call the “Elects.”
Actually in all the Scriptures, God calls them the Elects. He calls them “My People, My Elects” and that is what is happening on earth at this point. We are calling the Elects. We are calling the Wheat. We are calling the people who have been meditating, awakening their spiritual forces, have purified themselves to this point, and now is the time to come forward, see this Vision, realize God’s Words, and come and join the Mission and say, “Yes, this is God’s Plan, and we want to help because we have been waiting for this for the last 12,000 years.”
Actually all the Prophets, all the great Beings, have been waiting for this Revelation to come, and now it is on earth. There is no other Revelation that has the complete picture than now is on earth in the Mission of Maitreya. So, understand it, read it, ask questions, that is why I am here. If you have a question, raise your hand and if you do not have a mic or you are shy or for any reason you would like to put it in text, go ahead and type it in text and let us converse together.
Let us discuss the different aspects of God and His Plan together. Let us come to the conclusion that, Yes, what this Revelation has brought to us does answer all your questions. And eventually, of course, come and help the Plan of God. In all levels in your life, with the capacity that you can add to the strength to the Mission as we gather the 144,000 Elects, if each Elect does a little bit, we will get a lot done and eventually will spread this Message to every corner of the earth.
It already goes to every corner of the earth. The only thing people really have to do it is to connect to Paltalk and come to this room or go to our website, or send the questions to us and know what the Revelation is.
Freely it has been given. Freely it is given out to everybody on earth. This is the Revelation that everybody should give out as One. They should realize that there has been a Plan, there is a Path called the Eternal Divine Path.
It is called “Eternal” because it was established in eternity. It is “Divine” because it leads to Divinity, and it is a “Path.” It does not have any dogma. You do not have to believe in this name and that name, and you benefit from it. If you follow the Path, you will see the benefit. You will benefit, the people around you will benefit, your community will benefit, and the whole earth will benefit by people following this Path.
Of course, the Path is essentially opposed to the nature of ego, which is self-centered, selfish, and wants everything for itself. It is a Path that dissolves the ego, and it frees you from your subconscious mind to the unconscious mind or God.
This Path is the Path of liberation and salvation to God. God has sent each part of this Path as a religion, as a truth, as a philosophy, as an understanding to humanity.
For example, the first part is awakening of the spiritual forces. That is the teaching that we call “Mystical Paths” and that is to know thyself. Whoever knows self, knows God. Self and God are One, atman (self) and Atman is God. You and God have the same Essence. Everything is God but not everything is in Pure Consciousness.
Therefore, if you know yourself, you have no choice but to know God. That is the teaching of Hinduism, Buddhism, Cabala, Mystical Christianity, Sufis, and all the teachings that teach that you and God are One, “Be still and know that I am God.” That is exactly what we read in the Bible that teaches, at least Jews and Christians, to become still, meditate, realize that they and God are One.
After the awakening of the spiritual forces, of course, God sent the Old Testament. In the Old Testament, God was trying to find a people who are called the Children of Light, those who follow God in their Community, and they also follow God’s Laws.
Therefore, they bring the Kingdom Of God within themselves and on earth. So the whole Old Testament is a struggle when God is trying to find these people, teach these people, guide these people, give them Laws, give them everything they need to progress on earth and create the Communities where everyone has the ability to meditate, awaken their spiritual forces, and progress.
In order to create such Communities, you have to give of yourself into It. If everyone in the Community says, “What is in it for me in this Community? I am here only that everyone else serves me and I am not going to contribute or sacrifice in it,” or, “I am going to keep my ego and be selfish and self-centered,” it is not going to work.
So, you have to give of yourself to the Community, you have to sacrifice, and that is the message of Christ. The New Testament shows that Christ was willing to even sacrifice his life for His ideal, and that was, “Love thy neighbor as thyself,” work for the Kingdom Of Heaven, of God.
Therefore the message of the Third Seal or Christianity was sacrifice, not being self-centered, being able to contribute to the community, therefore the Community prospers, the Community becomes stronger, the Community is supported with the members and the people who are in it so it becomes a viable, strong force to spread and help everybody on earth. As the Communities of Light form, we will eventually bring the Kingdom Of God On Earth.
You sacrifice a lot in the Community, you bring God into the Community, you meditate, awaken your spiritual forces, you try to create the Communities of Light, Second Seal, and … [reading text]
Wendy [text]: I have a question. What about Jesus or also known as Yeshua?
Maitreya: Well, first of all, “Yeshua” is a corrupt name of his sacred name. His sacred name cannot be pronounced. The only way you can know his true spiritual name is by it being revealed to you one by one, through the Spirit of God. Therefore the very word “Yeshua” is a corrupt pronunciation of the Name of the Son.
It is just like “Yahweh” is a corrupt pronunciation of the name of the Father. When the Name of the Father and the Son merge, the Spirit of the Mother will also be recognized in a person. Therefore, the Father, Son, and The Holy Ghost (Mother) will become One.
Secondly, his name never was “Jesus.” The name “Jesus” cannot be found anywhere in the Hebrew language, and he came from a Hebrew background. A lot of people have tried to explain to me where the name “Jesus” came from, they go on that it came from Yahshua and then it was translated to Greek, and eventually it became Jesus.
But as we said, the very base of their explanation of Yahshua is incorrect, because Yahshua is really a corrupt name of his spiritual name which cannot be uttered on earth. So we can see that they are incorrect in trying to make “Yahshua” into “Jesus,” and many other cultures, like Moslems and Hindus call him “Esa.” There was a monastery in India which has a historical writing on Christ and they also call him “Esa.”
So his earth name was “Esa.” His spiritual name cannot be pronounced, so Yahshua is incorrect, and some people actually write Yeshua as Y’shua, kind of saying that it is unpronounceable.
We can see that some people are aware that it cannot be pronounced. Of course the name “Jesus,” if you go to our website [www.maitreya.org] in The Glossary, there is a long explanation about where the name “Jesus” has come from. It sounds like the “Je” in Jesus has come from the name “Jay,” which in Sanskrit means “victory.” And we know that in the European languages, they have come from Europe, therefore “Jay” most probably was victory in the old Greek language or probably Latin.
Therefore, “Jay” means “victory” and “-seus” [from Jesus] means “Zeus.” So “Je-sus” means “victory to Zeus.” When Christianity came to Europe, they did accept that he was the Son of God, he was the Messiah, he was the Savior, but they did not let go of many things from maybe before that. Maybe that is why you can see that in Rome, they have replaced a lot of the Holy Days, God’s Days, with the holidays of Rome.
Many, many things that we can see have come to us in the West were greatly influenced with Roman and Greek philosophies and beliefs. To understand the truth of Christ’s teachings, the only place you can go to at this time and look at it are the red texts in the New Testament. Anything besides that red text is not very reliable or something that you can really count on.
Even Jefferson realized that, and that is why he wrote the Jefferson Bible, and he tried to take out a lot of things that he also realized were really not the Word of God or Christ, and he tried to purify it. He did a decent job on that, but the truth has come in THOTH and other revelations that corrected it.
Actually the New Testament was not written until 170 years after Christ. We have been at this for 20 years, and our teaching has been twisted with many people who have come to the Mission and they tried to change it to the way they wanted for it to sound. So if people are willing to change the Teaching that came 23-24 years ago, just imagine how much influence can be put in a teaching 170 years later when the Prophet actually wasn’t there to correct it or say, “Yes, I accept this part but I do not accept that part. This is true, and that is not true.”
So we can see that it has been influenced greatly with the Rome and Greek mythology, actually Rome was becoming the follower of Mithra, and Mithra is a part of the Zoroastrian religion. The Zoroastrian people believed that there will be a Savior who will come from a virgin and save the world. So we can see that philosophy also has influenced Christianity.
If you read our Teaching and if you are really a seeker and search the truth, you will see that a lot of things in most or all of the religions are believed by the followers which are not completely from God. So, in answer to your question, Christ or Esa the Christ was the Messiah, the Son of God, who brought the Third Seal to humanity and is a part of the Teaching. We do not deny that Esa was Christ and we believe in all Prophets and religions before this Revelation. And there will not be any greater truth than this Revelation to come to us for 1,000 years.
So if you really want to know who Christ is or what was his mission and revelation, you have to understand the Third Seal and our Teaching in a greater degree.
I hope that answered your question. [reading text]
Wendy [text]: Thank you Maitreya, you answered my question thoroughly.
Maitreya: Great, I am glad it made sense, Wendy. Again, welcome to the Mission of Maitreya Conversation Room. We are here to clarify, to explain, to talk to everybody about this new Revelation which has come to humanity as the opening of the Seven Seals and the unification of all religions.
If you have any questions, raise your hand and come up, and let us have a conversation about it, and if you do not have a mic or for any other reason, you can type it in text. I am sure you have a problem with your system, LadyHeaven, and everybody probably can help you out to get your mic or speakers working.
I do not see any question. If I missed any question, please IM me with the question so we can go ahead and answer you.
As I was saying, the Third Seal is the sacrifice, not being self-centered. Now, you meditate, you awaken your spiritual forces, you try to create the Communities of Light, you sacrifice for It, and nothing happens. Nobody wants to hear it. Nobody wants to respond to it. Nobody wants to create Communities of Light. Everybody has their own life, everybody has a reason or problem, or excuse not to get involved.
So nothing happens and your work or Mission is not going anywhere, you become depressed. You say, “Well, this is the greatest Revelation that has come, was prophesied God, and now it is here. It makes sense, it makes sense to you, it makes sense to the people who have seen the Vision, why does it not make sense to the rest of humanity?”
It is because they have dogma, they have their own ideas, they have their own opinions, their problems; either they are involved with their husbands, wives, fathers, mothers, children, careers, this and that. As Christ said, they have been invited to the wedding but all have an excuse not to come and join this Revelation and get on with the work.
So you can see that you might become a little discouraged and say, “Wow, what is it that it is not happening and it is not going where you want it to go.” Or, you start preaching and everybody hears it, understands it, loves it, and they come and join you with no reservations. They drop everything and say, “Yes, this is the Revelation of God. My life is worth nothing if I am not a part of it, because I want to be with God.”
Therefore, you drop everything and you go out on the limb for God, and then you see that great things start happening to you because you are following God’s Will.
The next step is to surrender the result of your actions to God. You do see the Vision, you do meditate, you do awaken your spiritual forces, at least you try to, you join the Community here or you try to start a Community wherever you are, and you sacrifice for it but you say, “God, I really want to see this Community of Light form, I really want to see that the Kingdom Of God comes on earth. I will do my best but I am not attached to the result. The result is yours.
“I will try to understand Your Will,” which we know His Will is in THOTH, The Holiest Of The Holies, our Scripture. And if you understand that, then you know His Will and you try to do His Will, “I want to do Your Will. I will try my best, but the result is yours. I am not going to be attached to what happens.”
So, when you reach that point, you surrender the result to God. Even greater than surrendering, of course, is submission. Submission means that you reach a point that you become so close to God and you know the Will of God so well that you always consult God about what is the best course of action in any situation. You let God actually do it through you. You become a channel for the Highest, which is only One God, the Formless, Invisible, Nameless, and Eternal (FINE).
He comes through you and the Oneness of you and God becomes One. You and God become One, because if He is coming through you all the time, is there any separation? No. God is in this room, I am not giving this Satsang, God is giving this Satsang. I am just a pure channel sitting here and letting God come through and say what is needed for you all to hear.
When you do that, then you and God are One. That is the Goal of the spiritual progress, to be(come) One with God. There is no ego left, there is no “I” do, “I” remember, “I” have done, but it is all God doing it through me and I am free from any karma because I am not doing anything.
Therefore you are absolutely not attached to the result of your action. Therefore you are absolutely free to let God’s Spirit come through you all the time. Of course, it is not an easy job to be in the Spirit of God all the time and know His Will. So if that happens, do your best and surrender the result to God. And as you do more and more and you realize how best you can do God’s Will, you will see the Spirit of God will come through you.
Indeed, eventually you realize that you and God are One. There is no separation. God is coming through you all the time and when there is no separation, there is no ego, no craving, no attention-giving actions will be done, so you will become a pure channel of God. That is the highest spiritual realization, and that is the message of Islam.
Islam comes from the word “Tasleim” which means to be surrendered and submissive to God. Therefore we can see that so far we have included all the Mystical Paths, which is Hinduism, Buddhism, all the mystical teachings of Africa, South America, and the people who all teach, “know thyself to know God.”
We included the Old Testament, creation of the Communities of Light.
We included Christianity or the New Testament. The message is sacrifice in the establishment of the Communities of Light.
We included Islam, which the message is to be surrendered and submissive to God.
Therefore we can see that at least we have unified 4 billion people in this Revelation and we have unified them together.
Now then, the Fifth Seal … [reads text] OK, go ahead LadyHeaven. [pause]
LadyHeaven: I am very happy to be here. I have a question. Are you Allah’s Prophet? Are you Mehdi? Have you been sent by God? In your Mission, how did you know that … you are not a Prophet, right? I do not know, I just do not know. How did you know that you are a Prophet? Well, I am Muslim, and one of the sisters here told me that Maitreya is the Mehdi that we have in Islam, right? … In Islam we are expecting the Mehdi but he is not a Prophet, he is just a very good and a very high man to come to teach people and to take them to the right path. So Maitreya is a Prophet? How did you know that you are a Prophet? What signs, how did He know He is a Prophet? That is my question. How did He know that He is a Prophet, was sent by God, and has to do this Mission? That is my question.
Maitreya: OK, I guess I can rephrase your question. Your question is about Mehdi, if I am a Prophet, and if there is a miracle in the Mission of Maitreya.
Of course, the Mehdi belief mostly comes from the Shia Imamies, a branch of Islam, and it was the twelfth Iman in Islam who mysteriously vanished. The reason for it was that because any Iman that came after Prophet Muhammad and his family, his sons and daughters, were either murdered or poisoned. The twelfth Iman’s approach was to become very isolated and communicated with his followers through Batir or a person who took his messages to the people.
And eventually he vanished, and nobody knows what happened to him. The belief is that as Christ was crucified according to Christianity and rose and went to heaven, and he returned one day, he also will return in almost the same way with a little difference, of course, it depends upon which branch of Islam you are in.
So, that is an expectation of the return of Mehdi as the representative of God. Of course, before Mehdi comes, there will come the “Door” or the “Key” of the Mehdi, and that is what Bab came as. He said, “I am he.” Bab came as the “Door” to Mehdi and of course, later on, he said he is the Mehdi. Even more later on, he said he was the Major Manifestation.
So we can see that if you believe that Mehdi is a good person and who has come as the revealer of some truth, Bab has already done that. Therefore we can see that Mehdi came as Bab, and the Babis, and eventually their religion of Baha’i came to the West and now we know that Baha’is also claim that they have the teaching and revelation of God.
Of course, because this Mission unifies all religions and also includes all of the revelations before it, it also includes all the prophecies of the coming of all the expectations of all religions. If you go to our website [www.maitreya.org] there is a section called “Prophecies” and it is explained very clearly how this Mission, this Revelation, this Prophet or Major Manifestation or Messiah or whatever you want to call it, a Prophet, has fulfilled the expectations of all religions on earth.
There is no religion with the prophecies which is left out.
Therefore you can see that also has been prophesied in Islam based on the Word of God and also it is based on the Scriptures, the Scriptures that only and only when the Seventh Angel, the last Revelation of God will come on earth.
Therefore, no revelation, no Prophet, is the last until the Seventh Angel comes. Prophet Muhammad never claimed he is the Seventh Angel. Actually the very base of the belief of the Moslems is that Prophet Muhammad was the last prophet is from a few words in the Koran or in the Hadiths that reveals that very little about that he is the last Prophet. Even that has been disputed and has been talked about for many, many writings in the Baha’i Teaching and many other places that have a very good explanation in the website as to why he is not the last Prophet, etc.
So we can see that it is only the Seventh Angel, the Seventh Revealer, who will be the last Prophet, and therefore we can see that by understanding that, we realize that this is the last Revelation. No other revelation before it is the last Revelation.
Therefore this is a Revelation which only comes through the person who fulfills all these prophecies and therefore it is the Word of God and Prophet Muhammad was prophesied to come and He was the Prophet of God as Christ was prophesied to come. He was a Prophet of God or the Messiah.
So has this Revelation been prophesied to come and therefore it is from God and this is the Revelation that you can call the Revealer the Messiah or a Prophet or the Major Manifestation, whatever you want to call Him. It does not make any difference. The most important thing is the Message.
What did God send to humanity? Did it fulfill the Scriptures? Is it really the Word of God that such a thing is going to come? If you study our Teaching, as I said, if you have the slightest Spirit of God or Truth in you, you will see it is.
And now as for your question, What is the miracle of this Mission? The miracle is the Message. If you understand the Message, then you understand our religion, you understand God’s Plan, you understand how the Kingdom Of God can come on earth, how all the religions have come and were sent by God. That Revelation by itself, each point by itself is a miracle because nobody knew it.
Until 25-years ago, nobody knew this. Now many people do, because they have come to the Mission, they have come to our website, and they have seen the truth.
LadyHeaven [text]: Do you have a Holy Book?
Maitreya: Yes, our Holy Book is called The Holiest Of The Holies (THOTH), The Last Testament. So even in our Revelation, it clearly says that this is the last one. “Koran” does not mean the last one. “Koran” means “readings.” But this one clearly says … [reading text]
LadyHeaven [text]: From where did you bring it?
Maitreya: From God. It is from God. How can a Revelation come from anywhere else? Revelation comes from God, which is the Spirit, which is everything. It is “Vahy.” Do you understand “Vahy?” In Islam, Prophet Muhammad received Vahy. “Vahy” means coming from God to you, and then you reveal it to humanity.
It is the same process. God never changes His mind. [reading text]
LadyHeaven [text]: You have seen that?
Maitreya: What do you mean, “You have seen that?” I have seen what? [reading text]
Well, there are a lot of people who claim to be the Mehdi and the Messiah, but they have not really fulfilled the prophecies, they are not the Seventh Angel, they did not open the Seven Seals, and no matter what they are and who they are, if it is not in THOTH, they probably were not great people.
It is just like many, many branches and people who came as Mehdi and claimed that but they did not create great religions. I do not know much about “Vahy.” You can explain it to us if you want to come to the mic and tell us what Vahy is. But there is no greater truth or Revelation than THOTH.
So, these are the answers to your questions. If you want to see the miracle of God, … because this Message will heal the whole earth, the whole humanity. It is the message of healing, to bring unity to humanity, to show how to create the Communities of Light, how to bring the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth (KOHOE). So we can see that we are not healing individuals. We are healing the whole earth.
Go ahead LadyHeaven.
LadyHeaven: OK, thank you. I feel that you are patient, you were Muslim. I understand that you were born in a Muslim family. I want to know about, what does the religion you brought have special things, that will attract me as a Muslim to believe that this is a true religion? My question was, I knew Khaled, and he was Muslim. He was from Iran. Me as a Muslim, what would be in this religion that would attract me and make me believe in it? … What language was it brought in? The Koran was in Arabic. What language was it brought in originally, what was it written in? What will make me want to study this? That is my question.
Maitreya: Well, it will make you a better Moslem. If you understand THOTH and our Teaching, you will become a better Moslem. It will make you a better Christian. It will make you a better Jew. It will make you a better Hindu, Buddhist, Baha’i, or whatever and whoever you are. It explains the essence of Islam, what it means. It explains how God did say that Prophet Muhammad would come and he would bring the highest spiritual realization which is the Fourth Seal.
It clears a lot of things for you as a Moslem, why Islam came, why Prophet Muhammad is not the last Prophet, why he did not reveal the whole Holy Tablet and you have to wait until the Seventh Angel comes. If you are the seeker of the truth, it does not matter if you are a Moslem, Hindu, Buddhist, Christian, Jew, whatever, you want the truth, and THOTH reveals the truth to you.
Therefore it is not directed to the Moslems, or Hindus, or Buddhists, or Christians. It is directed and is for the whole humanity. Actually this is the only revelation which is for the whole humanity. As Prophet Muhammed said, I have brought the Koran in your language Arabic, . That is exactly what God said. Prophet Muhammad comes, and he comes for the Children of Ishmael, because God promised Abraham and Abram both a scepter, a kingly spiritual domination, and a territorial or birthright promise.
The kingly domination came through Christ to the children of Isaac, and Prophet Muhammad came as the revealer and the Prophet of the children of Ishmael. If you read THOTH you understand all these things in a greater degree, therefore you understand your religion better, where it came from why it came, who it came for, why it is not going to unify the whole humanity, and why there are so many misconceptions in your religion because every religion to this point thought they are the best revelation from God.
All Christians want to make everybody Christians. All Moslems want to make everybody Moslem. All Jews say that they are the Elected Ones, they are the only ones who are going to be saved. Everyone else were not chosen. But this Revelation says, No. God sent all of you separately. God promised Isaac that Christ would come; Ishmael, Prophet Muhammad. God promised Jews to be elected until Christ came and said, You are not elected anymore, the kingdom will be taken away from you and given to another person, another nation.
See, all these things are explained. It is just amazing. If you read about this Revelation, if you read our Teaching, it is amazing about how much truth will be revealed to you, how much it is clear for you, the Word of God to this point.
Therefore, as a Moslem, as a seeker of the truth, you have the obligation and responsibility to study, to read, and it is all on our website. I can see here, they have posted many times the URL to our website [www.maitreya.org] and it is free. It is all there free, you can go download, read it, and all of that.
Of course if you want a hard copy of THOTH, there is a small charge for it for the paper and things like that. But it is free there on the website. It is your duty and obligation to know what God really meant when He promised Ishmael that a Prophet will come from you. What did He mean when He promised the same thing to Isaac?
Why are Jews confused and they cannot see that God promised to both Abram and Abraham the coming of a Messiah or Prophet? Why cannot they see that God said they are no longer the Chosen People and your neighbor are the Chosen People. [reading text]
Question [text]: Are all the people who follow this religion like converts?
Maitreya: Yes, that is the whole idea, that … not all the people. The whole idea is that for the last 12,000 years, God brought many humans into a human body and let them grow together.
Of course, if you read our Teaching, it explains all about creation, how man failed, how he became more and more gross in the human body as we are in, how our spiritual eyes are closed, and all that. Now is the time that the process is reversed. [reads text] OK, let’s answer your question one-by-one.
So, some of these people converted 12,000 years ago, they have progressed to this point. That is why they are Elects. Some of the people have not. They are the chaff. Now is the time that these Elects and the chaff will be sundered. The chaff will not be reincarnated for a long time, and the Elects or the people who are progressing will.
The Elects eventually will create the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth. We do not have to convert you. If you have the Light, if you are an Elect, you will see the Vision and you convert yourself. I do not even have to convince you.
It is not my job to convince you. My job is to give you the Message, to give the truth. It is you yourself who has to convince yourself that this is from God and is the truth. Therefore you can see that there is no conversion. This is what God said is going to happen.
When the Seventh Angel comes, the Elects will see the Vision and come together and will bring the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth. So there is no “conversion.” We are not going to put a sword in your side and say, Yes, who does not believe in our religion, we are going to cut your head off. There is no such thing at all.
It is you who will go to our website, you will study our Teaching, you will read THOTH, and you will come here and talk to me and eventually say, “Yes, that makes sense.” Go ahead Spirit, hello?
Spirit: Yes Sir, Hi. I have a question and I am not sure if it has already been answered or asked because I had to answer this phone for a second and put the sound down. But, much of what you are espousing I have already come to the point that is the deep Truth. Most of the religions that profess that God created everything and that we should worship Him, they all seem to be, and I agree with you, they seem to be part of a greater whole, individual, yes, but part of a whole.
And not only with their religions, but much of life seems to be like that as well with the persons seeking God. But the question that I have and I have had it before, I spoke with some of your followers and others in the group is, they seem to believe that you are The Messiah, The Christ, and the question I have is, Do you consider yourself a Messiah, a Christ, or do you consider yourself The Messiah, The Christ, the One prophesied to come? I was just wondering about that.
Maitreya: There is only One Messiah. There is only One Revealer, One Prophet, that will be prophesied to come for a long time before He comes. There is only one Begotten Son of God who has reached Pure Consciousness or Godhead before the creation had been created.
There is only One Spirit of God that can manifest itself as the Major Manifestation or the Revealer of the truth. But as people follow this Teaching and they progress, they do become the Son of God. They become the Spirit of the son, not as being born from a woman or anything. It means that they represent the Spirit of God and therefore become in the image of God, and therefore they become the Son of God.
So, there are a lot of great Spirits, great beings on earth who have realized a lot of things that here we reveal, but not the whole thing. And that is why they think they are the Messiah themselves. But that is not based on Scriptures. If we had two Messiahs, we would have two centers, we would have a split in the Body of Christ.
You cannot have two centers in the atom. The moment there are two centers, one atom becomes two. There is only one point of focus that makes the Body to become united. If that one point of focus becomes two, then you have a split in the religion. That is why we have so many branches in so many religions, because people came and they claimed that they know better than other people, and that split that religion into fragmentation.
Therefore, God prophesies for a long time before that Revealer comes. If you believe you are Christ, what prophecies have you fulfilled? What Revelation have you brought based on the Scriptures? Therefore you have to ask yourself, Who has done these things?
That is the criteria for humanity to realize who the correct Revealer, Messiah, Prophet, Major Manifestation, is. You might have realized a lot of things because you have been meditating for many lifetimes, and in this lifetime you are realizing this, but you have to recognize that your focus should be on the Messiah or The Revealer, or the One that He prophesied to come.
Even John the Baptist was a very high spiritual person, and a lot of things were revealed to him. But he said that he was the forerunner for a greater Revealer who would come after. So he did not say, “I am the Messiah, I am the Revealer.” I know there are a lot of people out there who think they are the Messiah, they are the Revealer, they are the Christ, but ask them this, “Have you fulfilled any prophecies? Did you open the Seven Seals? Are you from the Lion of the Tribe of Judah? Are you that unique that we can look at you and say, ‘Yes, God made this person uniquely qualified to reveal this Revelation.’”
If you have those things, then let’s confirm who has the most truth, and let us follow the correct Revealer.
Go ahead, Spirit.
Spirit: Well, the question was basically, do you consider yourself THE Messiah, THE Christ? For myself, I know that I am not THE Christ, I am not THE Messiah, but I, as the same as everyone else, has the ability to become like Christ or to become like a Messiah or to become a Bringer of Light.
But that does not say that I am THE Messiah. I am not THE Messiah, I am not THE Christ. I know that and I realize that, but the message that he brought is that we can be like Him. We can be One with Him. So in a sense we can become A Christ, we can never become THE Messiah. But that is not to say that if you become like Christ that you are THE Christ. Do you see the difference? And so my question again is, do you consider yourself to be THE Messiah, THE Christ?
Maitreya: You see, that is the question really that you have to answer yourself. As Christ said, If I say I am, many people will not believe. And if I say I am not, I am a liar. Look at the prophecies. Look at the genealogy. I did not say that Maitreya is Christ. A gentleman in England took out ads in in every capital city in the world and announced in 1982 that Maitreya is Christ, that Maitreya will be here in the Spring of 1982.
Go to our website. Go read our Teaching. See what I claim, OK? I do not have to say it. You have to see that that is what we claim, OK? And if you can prove it to yourself, then you can see that it is from God and there is no other person who can bring the last Revelation but the Lion of the Tribe of Judah according to The Revelation chapter 5, and the Lion of the Tribe of Judah is Christ.
Just connect the dots together and come to this conclusion that, that is what we claim. OK? This is the last Revelation. It is from God. It has fulfilled the prophecies.
Now, do I have to say it myself? It does not really make any difference if I say it or not. The most important thing is if you believe it. In order for you to believe in it, you have to go study it, see that the prophecies are fulfilled, see that the Revelation is based on the Word of God, and therefore you will believe that what I say is the truth.
Then you answer your own question. Really, you have to prove it to yourself. Everybody has to prove it to themselves, OK? And if you prove it to yourself, that it is your proof. Therefore you believe, and it will be revealed to you if I am saying the Truth or not.
When God reveals to you, then you have a direct relationship with God, and that is the goal of spirituality, to have a direct relationship with God. If you do not have a direct relationship with God, then you have a religion. Go ahead, LadyHeaven.
LadyHeaven: [hard to understand what is being said] if he was Christ, and he had a specific job to do. He was not born again. Jesus the Christ is not dead. He is alive, and He will come back again to show the people the right path, and he has a specific duty. If you feel this then, if you are The Christ, then it is not what Christians believe in because he was not dead, he will not be born again. And we have also the purification of humanity and that he already came, and that is how I believe in him.
So, who are you? In Islam, like, in Christianity, there is a prophecy that he will come to earth and all should believe in him. In our religion we already have the crucifixion of Jesus the Christ and Mehdi. I still do not know who you are. Just tell me, who are you? You are not Jesus Christ, and you are not Mehdi, so who are you?
Maitreya: OK, this is very hard for me to tell you about our Teaching when we know about YOUR teaching but you do not know about OUR Teaching. If you had studied our Teaching you would know that we teach that the Spirit of God comes to earth as the Messiah or the Revealer of the Revelations to humanity, and that Spirit never dies and never will, OK?
In that sense, what you are saying is the truth. So you are saying, “What are the Seven Seals?” The whole idea during the week is that the people in the “All Religions Unified” room direct you to go to our website, and they do go there and they study, and they see our Teaching at least a little bit. So when they come to this room we can have a conversation about what we believe and what you believe, and why the things we believe make more sense, and all that. What you told me about what you believe, it is your belief. Some of them even are not in the Koran at all, but what you believe is in your religion and you have been taught to believe that.
So do Christians. Christians come here and they say that they believe Christ has raised some dead and he is going to come from the sky. Those who are Christians, good Christians, they are going to go to the clouds and get caught with him there, and suddenly the people, the good ones, are not on earth.
That is their dogma. That is their understanding. That is not the truth. “Cloud” means confusion, and it is all explained in our Teaching in THOTH. And you have to know THOTH first, really. You have to know our Teaching first. [reads text]
Comment [text]: The followers have changed it.
Maitreya: Of course, it has been changed. So was the Koran. Prophet Muhammad never wrote down the Koran. There was no version of the Koran after Prophet Muhammad, and then, they chose one of them, actually there was a split from the very beginning. [reading text]
Yes, yes, go to our website, go to the section “More Evidence about Our Teaching” and you will see under the Koran, there have been many versions of the Koran, and you will see a lot of good information there that will help you to understand your religion better. When Prophet Muhammad passed away there was a war in Yemen, and many of the people who could recite the Koran were killed.
Suddenly the Calipha, I think it was Osman, he realized that the Koran is going to get lost. Therefore, he gathered people in a committee to put the Koran together, and they found that there were many versions of the Koran that people were citing different versions differently, and they were saying different things about the Koran.
Actually there was a great struggle as to which one is the truth, and eventually they put together the Koran you have as is, but it was not the whole revelation and it was not also the only version. Therefore you can see that even the Koran is not completely perfect. Go ahead, Spirit.
Spirit: I kind of lost my train of thought of what I was going to say next, but one of the questions I have is that I have read your writings, and I have read enough of what you presented to know that the Seven Seals, the different symbology are similar to relate to the Tree of Life and what happened in Babylon, the seven sacraments of the Catholic Church, you know, the Buddhist teachings, etc. They are very similar and they all have those Seven Seals that have to be overcome if you want to become One with God and have the God Consciousness.
But on the original Messiah question, the Christ question, I do not think that Jesus, he never denied that he was Christ. He mentioned that He was, He is, the Son of God and that if you believe in him, you believe in the Father, but he didn’t deny that part. But I understand your position as far as your proclamation and how you have come to those decisions. I do not really want to belabor the point but I do appreciate your listening and point of view. Thank you.
Maitreya: Neither do I. I do not deny that Christ’s truth, of his revelation, and being the Word of God, and I claim and proclaim and have done that nobody goes to the Father but through me. But what happened when he proclaimed? They crucified him, because they did not understand and they thought he was on an ego trip.
That is why in this time, it is you who has to prove it to yourself, and when you prove it to yourself, I do not have to tell you. You know it. You know it is in your heart, that the prophecies are fulfilled, this is the Lion of the Tribe of Judah, this is the opening of the Seven Seals and the Book Sealed with the Seven Seals.
Actually the only time that the whole universe rejoiced was when Christ opened the Book Sealed with the Seven Seals. That is the highest Revelation that God sent to man and nobody could open it, no one, only the Lion of the Tribe of Judah, OK?
So I am not denying it at all. Actually if you go to our website, this is all over it. Our claim is very clear. There is no other truth that you can follow on earth but this one. If you want to go to God, to the Father, this is It. You have to follow the Eternal Divine Path. This Revelation is the way to God. This is your salvation.
That is why we are here, to tell you this is your salvation. Therefore I am not denying anything. But this time, you have to prove it to yourself. I am not going to tell you. I already told you. The only thing is that I am going to mostly leave the responsibility on you so you can really understand the Plan of God and you know it in your heart.
Go ahead, LadyHeaven.
LadyHeaven: OK, what do you think in the Koran it says that Prophet Muhammad is the last Messenger? So, what is the proof that you are the last Messenger?
Maitreya: That God is going to be a Mystery until the Seventh Angel comes. That the tribulation on earth will start after the Seven Seals are opened and the Book Sealed with the Seven Seals is revealed. That the Seventh Angel finishes with the Seventh Revelation that was necessary to reveal the Eternal Divine Path.
After that, there is no greater revelation that is going to come to humanity for 1,000 years. So the proof is all over the Scriptures. When the Seventh Angel comes, when He brings the Seventh Revelation, the Mystery of God will be finished.
Another proof is, if you read our Teaching, read the Satsangs, see the answers to the questions that have been given, there is no answer left out that has not been answered. The only answers to the questions left really are from the people who have their own religions, they have their own dogmas, they have their own understandings, and they are trying to prove to us that we are wrong.
That is the only thing that really is left. That is why, if I direct you to go and read and understand our Teachings and see the Truth and prove it to yourself. If you did that, then you will realize that Prophet Muhammad was the Fourth Seal. Prophet Muhammad was given the Prophethood to bring the truth in the Arabic language for Arabs, the Children of Ishmael.
And this did not come in my native language. It came in English which is almost a universal language in the world, that everybody almost knows English. Many people know English all over the world and now it has come for the whole earth.
Therefore this Revelation is the only universal revelation that has come for the whole humanity, not for a specific group. The Old Testament came for the Hebrews. The New Testament came for the lost tribes of Israel. The Koran came for … [reading text]
Well, that is true. Not a lot of people know English, but it easily can be translated into other languages as so many people know English in so many places on earth. You can find somebody who can translate THOTH to their native language. We already have French.
Of course, the Koran has been here for 1,000 years. This has been here for only 25-years. Of course it has been translated into many languages. This already has been translated into French as we have some people who wanted to translate it into Arabic and Persian.
As the time goes, it will be translated into all languages. [reading text]
OK, so we can see that all this truth is directing humanity to realize that this is the last Revelation for humanity. This has the universal scope. It explains all religions and it answers all questions. It is the opening of the Seven Seals and the Book Sealed with the Seven Seals. It is the Seventh Revelation of God, and the Mystery of God has finished.
Prophet Muhammad said he had not revealed the whole Holy Tablet or from the Akashic Records. Therefore he cannot be the last one! If he has not revealed everything, how can he be the last one? Somebody has to come to reveal the last Revelation.
Again, welcome to the Conversation Room of the Mission of Maitreya. This is the Revelation of the unification of all religions on earth. We welcome you and encourage you to go to our website, it is the duty and responsibility of each human to study this Teaching and eventually realize that God has sent a new Revelation for all humanity to become One. [reading text]
Question: Who can win the evil, love for everything, and never give a chance for the evil?
Maitreya: God. God can do that, and if you let God come through all the time and become One with Him, they will have no power over you. Go ahead, LadyHeaven.
LadyHeaven: In Islam we have , a lot of things, duties, and things that we do not have to do, OK? So like Islam, for better. All women should be covered. In your religion, I understand that drinking is allowed and women are not covered. So that means that God changed His Mind after He asked humanity to do specific things like not drinking and now it is OK for you to drink? Because even in Christianity, even before Islam, drinking is not correct, well,. because I know a friend and he is Baha’i and what about covering, what about getting covered? I mean, I am covered, so how would you expect me to take off my head scarf and that means that God changed His Mind and we shouldn’t be covered, covering our hair and we should not show attracting to anybody?
But you are not covered. I know that you are not covered, so that means that God changed His Mind and now we shouldn’t cover, because before Islam came, in Christianity, women were not covered. But God said that women have to be covered and no, you shouldn’t be covered again with the Maitreya?
See, I am talking about the head covering. Before Islam, there was no head covering. But after Islam came, God ordered all women to be covered. How can now the Maitreya say that they should not be covered again? How can I believe that God changed His Mind after He made covering a duty in Islam, and it is not a duty now? That is my question.
Maitreya: OK, well, first of all, there is not such a thing in the Koran that completely says everything that the women in Islam are doing. Prophet Muhammad said they have to be modest, they have to wear the clothing that a good spiritual mind would not object to it. There was not so much covering. Covering was not required. But if you want to cover yourself, that would be good. Actually we believe that women are prettier as she becomes more mysterious and men will actually become more attracted to a mysterious woman.
If they realize that, it is up to women to realize that themselves and cover themselves as much as possible and as much as they want to. But at the same time, men have to be strong not to fall for the cheap, shallow women but go for the women that are in their higher natures and they emphasize their Spirits and beauty of their Spirits instead of the beauty of their bodies.
Not all the women in Islam are covered. There are some women in Islam who show more of their body than any other women in the world, and it did not solve many evils in the society.
Whether they are wrong or right, that is the truth of it. So the idea is that the women be educated and taught, and they understand themselves that they have to do … it is just like, you want to do it. That is great, Lady. If you want to cover your head … as I said, I personally would like to see women covered as much as possible, but I give them the choice. I give them the option for themselves to decide how much they want to cover themselves.
As they meditate and become greater in the understanding of the attraction of their body and how it brings men to their lower nature, and men are no longer men ….[reading text]
Yes, we are gods, actually. We and God are One, and this is the Revealer of the Word of God, and now God wants people to understand in a deeper level His Revelation by themselves, not to be told or lashed or controlled to do something they do not want to do. And then after a while the only thing men are thinking about how to cope with the women and cover them and beat them up to put clothes on, instead the woman herself realizing that it is good for them.
Prophet Muhammad never meant to control women and make them to do those things, but he meant the women who decided to do it themselves, but we know and see now, like in Afghanistan if you do not have that big cover on yourself, those fundamental Moslems beat you up!
Is that God’s Words, to beat up the women who do not follow this but it is not from God? God said to be decent, be all that. He said for women to go to their higher nature and realize themselves that you are a part of the problem if you show your body all the time.
You will make men low in consciousness and the only thing they want to do is to drink beer and watch sports or pornography, and after a while their brains become completely mush and God does not even enter it! Therefore it is your responsibility to create an environment that does not bring humanity to their lower nature.
So now women have to choose and realize … that is why the Elects, those who are the Children of God will realize these things themselves. They will cover themselves. They will not wear clothes like men. Men will not wear clothes like women, and therefore we will have an environment that does not bring humanity down to the lower nature because humans realize that what God said is good for them.
Go ahead, Spirit.
Spirit: Yes Sir, I just wanted to say, I think that you are extremely gifted spiritually and conceptually the way you explain the lower nature versus the higher nature, and how the concept originally evolved to mean something that was literal, that was, say, spiritual and regardless of … Well, I am waiting for The Holy Spirit to confirm whatever. I do know that much of what you are saying is right on the money.
Maitreya: [smiles] That is great, Spirit. If it was not from God, I could not have said it. If it was not from the Spirit of the Father, I could not have revealed it. Therefore it is from God, I pray that all of you that The Holy Ghost will reveal to you the truth and all of you will go all around the world and claim our claim to humanity that the Messiah is here, the Revelation of God has come to humanity, the Seven Seals are opened, and now all religions are unified.
Let us find the Elects, let us come together and create the facilitating body, and bring the Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth.
I see there are not many questions left. LadyHeaven, go to our website, study our Teaching, and go in a deeper level in understanding. This is the greatest truth than any before it. Therefore if you want to know the depths of God’s Revelation and truth, you have to check this out. Everyone on earth is obligated to do that.
Our time is up. I leave all you to God. Again, go to our website. Study this Teaching and know that God indeed has returned to earth.
Sal-Om everyone.