Know the Teachings First
We received the below email (identifying information has been removed):
Hello,
My name is ... and inquiring to have a conversation about global peace and steps to achieve this. Knowledge is the combining frame and it seems the work I have been involved in for over 25 years can offer a good start.
The reason for the contact is to begin a dialogue to see if there is common ground to work within.
Sincerely
...
We replied:
Sal-Om ... (Sal-Om = We pay our Salutations to the Divinity within you),
We would be delighted to have a conversation with you and explore the possibilities of cooperation with you. Would you please tell us more about yourself and the work you have been doing, and tell us where did you hear about us?
You can find all about us at: www.maitreya.org.
Sincerely,
Mission Of Maitreya (M.O.M.)
We received a reply as:
writings a conveyance.
The contributions are quite interesting and it seems a preparation is being made.
Seems as like brothers living for existence to continue, each have gifts (wine) to share.
Looking forward to seeing the COL and the island.
So without much ado, it seems a calling has reached my heart and I am on my way there.
Peace to you brother and may we shake hands before the labor day.
...
Food for thought. These few clips are from the Maitreya site;
The electromagnetic force carries light (energy) from the sun (heat) and stars.
However, science has not yet mastered the ether. If this element is understood by them, they will realize that all particles in the atom, and the atom itself, are created by crudified ether.
The coming of a Major Manifestation is rare. There will be only one more Major Manifestation that will occur in a thousand years, but no new Revelation. It is then that the last part of the Plan of God will be fulfilled (the Golden Age will dawn). However, there might still be Avatars who come to implement these teachings and to keep them intact and refreshed until then.
These are not so tough as the promise made in my child hood was for to answer these very questions
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Gentiles: intellectuals, those who are intellectual but their intuitional abilities (spiritual eyes) are latent.
So while an 'i' is but a representations of the opinions of the 'me'; then maybe I am a gentile! Yet it seem each day is like walking into was is supposed to be but 'i' still think!
See you soon!
Our thoughts:
We were surprised that he wants to come here without we first have some "conversation" as he proposed in his first email about what he wants to share with us and how we might have a compatible work. Very few people have the opportunity to see Maitreya. Only those who we KNOW and are dedicated to the Mission (work for the Mission) and KNOW the Teaching have this opportunity provided to them readily! We have had people who did the same thing and we did not have good (God) experience with them.
So the decision was, as the policy of the Mission is, to have a few disciples go see him when he called the Mission to say that he was in our area. The conclusion was that he did not know the teachings, had no idea what the protocols of the Mission are, and was mostly interested in his own ideas rather than the teachings! He was asked to learn the teachings first and how the Mission works, and in time he might meet Maitreya. He left a paper with the Mission which was delivered to Maitreya.
Apparently he left not in Peace!
Maitreya sent him an email as below:
Sal-Om ...,
Sorry you came all the way to Albuquerque and did not see me. I did not take you seriously when you saidyou are coming. I wanted you tell me more about yourself so we come to know one another better before such a meeting can take place. When you said you are coming I was surprised and somewhat cautious as we really do not know you. We have had many crazy people who came and we had a hard time with them. So the protocol is to weed out the chaff.
I received your paper and will let you know if we can work with each other in this Most Holy Task.
M
We received the below email from him:
Hello Joseph,
The intent to meet with you during this labor day weekend was as a contributor of Peace; I make choices with a good purpose.
It seems that the intent to 'do'is my nature. Afterspending a few days of readingthe Maitreya.org site I intended to meet a brother who contributes their life for 'tomorrow.'To continue 'the evolution ofknowledge.'
Gravity developed after reading Thoth and in listening to words coming from your voice on the path. It was as if some of what was written and what was spoken are a little different in tone. The intent wasto sit face to face andspend some time with you. The exchangeis to share what has been learned and whatis coming. Since the communication is inmatters of such that relate to having a global impact, I find myself quite serious as most of my life has been for learning in which to share.
Ameetingis stillup in the air yetnow resting on you.The screening that was issued todayhad a direct questionin which today I was actually asked if I believed you were messiah. I said No!
And then I was asked if I would make a covenant following a 'belief' system. Again I said, NO. In all the material I had read on the maitreya site there is nothing in it that wouldenable a humble person tobegin understanding.Meaning for a doctor of medicine or even a student of any university, there is not enough material knowledge to ground the natural phenomenon existing within any of the knowledge 'the path' offers. Which shared that although the intent is there the final chapter is still missing pages.
But asi was asked toplace obedience to another religion I didreply that I made a covenant too. It wasmadein 1982 asI promised with every piece of my fiberI would work throughout my life and retire (40) to finish a set of literature sharing 'what life is' and 'how it works,' in a physical sense grounding all the sciences into a single unifying framework; unbiased by faith, religion,institution, government or god himself. That nothing would hinder me as we all know how arrogant a 16 years puppy can be. Yet it wasbasedon the most humble intent; togive with no need of the self butin compassion for others. And to learn what I saw in that event of humble servitude to existence will be another day.
The commitment has a whole story behindit in which ihad authored a paper Photo Neuron Conduction(PNC) Theory 1982 that defined how the interactions between the neuron was not of electricalinteractions but of electromagnetic exchanges (light). Thereason the paper was not acceptedis that I had addressed a biological system within molecular physicsthat contradicts the ideas ofchemical laws. Or simply that in biological systems the 'community' was not ready as the descriptioncontradicts the 2nd law of thermodynamics; entropy. Which purely means chaos or equilibrium is an incorrect descriptive frameworkof living systems.
The intent of sharing with you in written words was not the intent as it appears even with all the Love in world writing is not my greatest gift yetthe commitment to our future and the children of tomorrow is absolute.
But it seems at this pointa conversation within a 'screening process'had a specific bias which differed from the methodology as the web site material represented.
I did not comehere fora lineage debate or to contest your desires but that maybe if Love is truly there then the foundations can be as true as the intent. Meaning to combine knowledge is far more productive than tearing down.
I came here to giveand asked for nothing. I am well aware to impose adversely candamage anybridges to be built.
I do not care for a chair or that last word, I would be happy, as a fly on the wall, or even serving the meals,as long as the gathering beginsasa conveyancefor the children can be founded in truth; combining even mother nature as she does not createwords for to earn the complacency of mankind; religions.
In other words, true knowledge has more value than any single man.The value of comprehending existence in pure fact is what the evolution of knowledge is all about. Where mass can comprehend its own existence and there with by choice create an eternal life.
It seems the choice I made as akid was linked to far more than Iwas ever aware of.It has only been these last 3-4 years that I realized what the promise I made was and means and howmy passion (the sciences) and my hobby (religions/world theology)were converging and that a universal framework combines all of them.
I had not realized that the 'covenant' a 16 yr old boy made is to answer the very questions every soul ever born on this earth have all wanted toknow. Never askedfor a chair, anamesake, a single penny or return onone line ever conveyed.
Do you want to know why? Because to truly comprehend life, that to know that by maintaining pure integrity to existence itself (God) then in all choices, in all doings and in every inspiration, a sense of already being One with existence over the course of my life is all the gift I will ever need! I'm spoiled rotten on about every level imaginable.
This thing called 'i' is just an opinion from me and myself.
To be true then nodeath can exist defining 'me.'
Let me share what happened on the way here and see if you see anything within the story.
Take Care...... :>:>:>
Here's an example of how spoiled I am; Friday I left enroute to here, I headed straight for the reservations (san carlos, apache) as the indigenoushave the best unspoiled lands. (I prefer out door resting and travelingdirt roads versus any highways) At around7pm stilldeep inthe white mountains the rain was real heavy and then hail, so I figured I had best find a place to camp, just then I see through the clearing an old house. No windows, no doors but a great porch and cover for my truck.I make camp. Then I here something in the house, so I grab a flashlight and on the counter in the kitchen 2 bats were stuck to each other like puppy doggies when they mate. Now how many people on this earth do you know that have seen bats do the wild thing?
I can witness the procreation of even the most recluse. Even when the little critters try and maintain an existence in peace the intent to continue life is far stronger than anysense of dignity.
So let's open a seal;
In the garden there is no need of the self or the requisite of acceptance. Just as adam and even ate of the apple, the idea is the birth of consciousness where thought of 'choice' was born. This perception isthe basisfor the covering of the person (fig leaf.)
It is when man turned away from'the garden' in the guise of self.
Beast with 10 horns, little one in the middle.
The global teeth of capitalism is 'western', the birth is a child within. It is of the resources and of having everything, that the choice of compassion is true. Raised above, made a choice, had the access (internet) to combine the material knowledge without the oppressionfrom data.
Joseph, if you wish to meet I will be here
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P/s ... Joseph ifour interaction is to produce good fruit, then the good soil and good foundations must be of good intent. If you wish to maintain a presence in absolute truth (life) be honest even if it means loosing your physical life; be honest to existence, first! And if this choice is made, then life ever-lasting can be yours based on true Love.
The days of religions are over!
The reply was:
Sal-Om ...,
I admire your commitment and sense of great desire to Know the Truth, to be True and seek It (The Truth). I also see a conflict in your way of thinking and what I have received. You think like people of the West: Intellectual and a desire to solve all things by yourself and have left God (religions) out.
I have to share with you something that West has to recognize: There has never been sent a Prophet to the West until now. When a Prophet comes to a people it is a Great Warning that God is calling them to repent and Turn around to see His Ways. Now this is the Last Part of Gods Plan and It has been Revealed in the West (although it is for the whole humanity this time). So the West has to realize that it is indeed God who is Calling. He is not dead. Religions (presented as the Truth of the creation) is not dead (dogmas are). I will be rejected by the West, and probably most humanity (I already am). You will also reject me because I already do not agree with your assumptions and assertions (as you can see above).
The most important thing is to acknowledge God Exists (as our Revelation or Teachings clearly Prove It). That He has Promised that this Revelation will come at the end time. That we are at the end time. He will send a Prophet with Clear Signs (Prophecies, Genealogy, Genetic Purity) who is His Representative, The Christ (Amounted One). These are fundamental first steps in our teachings to come close to the Mission and Gods recognition as who is an Elect (seeker of Truth and a Servant of God).
I am indeed looking for the Seekers. I am indeed looking for people who bring the New Science based on Spirit. However, they will acknowledge these things. They will base their scientific discovers on Spirit. They will Manifest great Knowledge that will bring great technological advancement to humanity with no side effect (such as pollution, etc.). That is why I am not rejecting your discoveries. The question is: Are you one of the Chosen of God who understand His Last Revelation and the way He wants it to be presented to humanity. Are you willing to be a Part of it! If you are then you have to see that I am the Only viable representative of God (He has left no doubt on this) and so am the Anointed One (also known as Christ). All Elects will accept me as such and a Covenant with me is the Highest Acknowledgement of Acceptance of God, This Revelation, His Plan, etc. You are not ready to see this and take this step. According to my understanding and the Revelation. No matter what you say and claim you are not taking the steps God said all the Elects has to take. It will stop any approach and or meetings between us!
Still it does not mean that you do not have something of Great Value. As I said there are people who will be Called to Discover and Reveal the New Scientific facts based on Spirit. Some of them might not even meet me (or know me). Some of them might not have Covenant with me. However, they will bring these Scientific facts to humanity and their work is from God. They will Manifest their Truth and give Great Fruits, with or without my blessings. Their Work is from God. However, their work is a part of this Revelation and Gods Plan! Of course if they realize our Teachings and come to us in proper way, then we work together, and in a greater degree, in a greater coordinated way, we will bring these together (with other parts of the Mission) to Manifest and Bring Gods Kingdom on earth.
So it is really up to you. Read the teaching and understand the way God has Revealed it and see if it will make sense to you (in average it takes seven years to Master the Teaching!). Understand that it is Perfect as It is NOW. There is no contradiction between what is written and what is said. Indeed the consistency and unwavering Truth that is been Revealed in the span of more than 25 years is one of the Strength of the Revelation and reason one has to see it is from God (God does not change).
Read the Teachings. Send your questions to the Mission, then come to the conclusion: Is it from God or not? If you found It to be from God, then take the steps and the protocol to be one of the Elects (close members of the Mission).
If you concluded that this if not from God, then we leave you to God and we will see, at the end, who is the Truthful One.
If what you have found is the Truth, you do not need me, it will manifest. If what you have is not then even my blessings will not help it. So you really do not need me to manifest this. If it is from God it will manifest!
M
He replied:
These are the questions Joseph that are still left to be published.
Forums offer a great method of planting seeds and remaining autonomous. Below are some of the items that can be addressed:
[quote] its easier to explain why god isn't part of the sience [/quote] God is a word. All words are creations of mankind.
The idea is the usage of a term that is the cause of things not understood. i.e gods wrath destroyed the costal city; it was a typhoon.
So as phenomena are described, god is better understood.
[quote] 1.) first we must define god to what force it exert on this world, (good luck trying to figure that out and get people to agree on it) [/quote] all mass, all energy all time; god
Not concerned about the old folk believe but that the new generations have a foundation to comprehend what definition combines most every theological definition; except a dude on a thrown.
[quote] 2.) then we must witness te effects of god. only proveble witness so far is that believe in god ocasionaly makes people into a better person, but that can also be the placibo effect [/quote] Non-local effect? Entangled energy.
[quote] 3.) then we must eliminate god from a equetion to redivine every other known force (good luck eliminating god) [/quote] Are you willing to learn or do you want every one else to accept it before you do? Meaning the sciences define. Words are what combine knowledge.
We live within existence. We describe what we experience. It is our consciousness that offers the experience of sentient relations to existence (god) himself. Which is basic common sense as we are of the same mass and energy of our environment; hence the ignorance is to think existence or god is separate from our experience. See the next line.
[quote] so you see because it is almost imposible to create a force "god" to use in sience we leave it out compleetly. if god ever does comply to the the aboth 3 mentioned points we can include him into sience. [/quote] In this learned model you reprsent; god is sitting on a thrown turning wheels.
Grounding a few phenomenon
[quote] According to Newton, there is a force of attraction between any two bodies that have matter/mass. In other words, you and your computer are attracting each other. [/quote] correct as to spend time with someone sharing feelings and thoughts, a friend, a love develops
[quote] The force with which the apple is attracted towards the earth, is the same force with which the earth is attracted towards the apple. Once again NEWTON. [/quote] Good stuff
[quote] Gravity seems to be related to mass but it might be caused by another force and this other force might be exactly what creates mass as well. [/quote] This is thinking!
[quote] Science can only study the EFFECTS gravitation plays on OTHER objects, they can not study "gravity" itself.... right? [/quote] Youre correct but there are many studies tapping on the EXACT force that is gravity and do not know it.
[quote] Think of it this way, does heat come from light? [/quote] Dont tell your chemistry teacher that as the comment you make is exactly true but there is no math to define exactly what you said.
[quote] It would seem so since the sun's rays produce both but they are different frequencies of the same energy. [/quote] You hit it on the head, now go get your NOBEL>
[quote] Gravity and matter might be differing frequencies of the same string energy [/quote] Kill the strings; knowledge has no strings attached other than responsibility.
So lets finish this gravity issue.
Gravity; the force of attraction or non-local effect between mass is entangled energy (light).
All mass must have energy upon between the 2 to combine; see chemistry/van der waals
As more mass combines, the collective energy is greater than the individual units.
Casimir shares that different wavelengths have different levels of energy as well the inverse square rule to distance.
Each of these forces although defined as autonomous are representations of entangled energy between mass but neither of the individual properties such as how the wavelength or frequency (light) has different affects based on the interacting mass. Such that the amount of energy within a structure can be greater than its volume. i.e gold vs helium.
The point is a new set of comprehension combines all of the sciences, thereby revealing God as the total of existence and we are simply within defining with words.
The sciences are easy as long as you are not ruined by an education. Such the same the indigenous know god intimately, yet never used the wheel.
[quote] are thoughts separate from the thing being thought about, if the mind that is thinking them is itself part of the thing being thought about [/quote] No on the first part as each item defined in words is a part of the experience and then when the word is used, the next participant must know the language.
Mind is a combination of memories and sentience; afore-thought. Or simply we are late to mind yet consciously present.
He also sent the two below emails right after he sent the above one:
1. this is the location that pointed you out
and i included a reply today
2. Joseph,
the last seal, 'raising the fathers to the flesh'
Only one way this can happen; have you learned anything?
Take care and good luck.
...
Our answer was (Maitreya's comments in red replying within the person's original email):
These are the questions Joseph that are still left to be published.
Forums offer a great method of planting seeds and remaining autonomous. Below are some of the items that can be addressed
[quote] its easier to explain why god isn't part of the sience [/quote] God is a word. All words are creations of mankind.
The idea is the usage of a term that is the cause of things not understood. i.e gods wrath destroyed the costal city; it was a typhoon.
So as phenomena are described, god is better understood.
[quote] 1.) first we must define god to what force it exert on this world, (good luck trying to figure that out and get people to agree on it) [/quote] all mass, all energy all time; god
Not concerned about the old folk believe but that the new generations have a foundation to comprehend what definition combines most every theological definition; except a dude on a thrown.
[quote] 2.) then we must witness te effects of god. only proveble witness so far is that believe in god ocasionaly makes people into a better person, but that can also be the placibo effect [/quote] Non-local effect? Entangled energy.
[quote] 3.) then we must eliminate god from a equetion to redivine every other known force (good luck eliminating god) [/quote] Are you willing to learn or do you want every one else to accept it before you do? Meaning the sciences define. Words are what combine knowledge.
We live within existence. We describe what we experience. It is our consciousness that offers the experience of sentient relations to existence (god) himself. Which is basic common sense as we are of the same mass and energy of our environment; hence the ignorance is to think existence or god is separate from our experience. See the next line.
[quote] so you see because it is almost imposible to create a force "god" to use in sience we leave it out compleetly. if god ever does comply to the the aboth 3 mentioned points we can include him into sience. [/quote] In this learned model you reprsent; god is sitting on a thrown turning wheels.
Grounding a few phenomenon
[quote] According to Newton, there is a force of attraction between any two bodies that have matter/mass. In other words, you and your computer are attracting each other. [/quote] correct as to spend time with someone sharing feelings and thoughts, a friend, a love develops
[quote] The force with which the apple is attracted towards the earth, is the same force with which the earth is attracted towards the apple. Once again NEWTON. [/quote] Good stuff
[quote] Gravity seems to be related to mass but it might be caused by another force and this other force might be exactly what creates mass as well. [/quote] This is thinking!
[quote] Science can only study the EFFECTS gravitation plays on OTHER objects, they can not study "gravity" itself.... right? [/quote] Youre correct but there are many studies tapping on the EXACT force that is gravity and do not know it.
[quote] Think of it this way, does heat come from light? [/quote] Dont tell your chemistry teacher that as the comment you make is exactly true but there is no math to define exactly what you said.
[quote] It would seem so since the sun's rays produce both but they are different frequencies of the same energy. [/quote] You hit it on the head, now go get your NOBEL>
[quote] Gravity and matter might be differing frequencies of the same string energy [/quote] Kill the strings; knowledge has no strings attached other than responsibility.
So lets finish this gravity issue.
Gravity; the force of attraction or non-local effect between mass is entangled energy (light).
All mass must have energy upon between the 2 to combine; see chemistry/van der waals
As more mass combines, the collective energy is greater than the individual units.
Casimir shares that different wavelengths have different levels of energy as well the inverse square rule to distance.
Each of these forces although defined as autonomous are representations of entangled energy between mass but neither of the individual properties such as how the wavelength or frequency (light) has different affects based on the interacting mass. Such that the amount of energy within a structure can be greater than its volume. i.e gold vs helium.
The point is a new set of comprehension combines all of the sciences, thereby revealing God as the total of existence and we are simply within defining with words.
The sciences are easy as long as you are not ruined by an education. Such the same the indigenous know god intimately, yet never used the wheel.
[quote] are thoughts separate from the thing being thought about, if the mind that is thinking them is itself part of the thing being thought about [/quote] No on the first part as each item defined in words is a part of the experience and then when the word is used, the next participant must know the language.
Mind is a combination of memories and sentience; afore-thought. Or simply we are late to mind yet consciously present.
Our thoughts:
As you can see, although some of what he says seems to come directly from the pages of our website, still there is much incompatibility in what we say and what he thinks is the truth. He does not know the teachings and rejects God. How can we have any conversation with him?
This was our last email exchange with him. A few days later we received this email from a friend:
I was just talking to someone at Religious Forums/general debates/maitreya... and the person I was talking with actually went to New Mexico to meet Maitreya (apparentlys/he knocked on your door). You talked to the person. I know him/her as ...at the Religious Forums website.
...'s main thing right now is meeting Maitreya in person, and for Maitreya to read what ... wrote on the blog.
If you have time, could someone assist me with this? I can email back the response to the Religious Forums site.
Sal-OM
Our conclusion:
We direct everyone to read this page and know what has happened between us and this person. We have read his writings and as we explained above he has much more to learn. However, he has refused to do so, so far. When he learns the teachings and follows the protocols of the Mission to meet Maitreya he is welcome to talk to Maitreya and discuss things together.
We are open to all those who are sent by God to help the coming of the Kingdom. We, however, refuse to accept ideas and opinions which are not compatible with our Revelation and God's Plan. The first step to approach God is humility and acknowledgement of His Plan and His Revelation/Revealer!
Mission Of Maitreya, Eternal Divine Path